DWC ferts

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And, over watered pwc is caused by not enough O2 in the water. Better get more in there ... 25ml/g of H2O2 directly in the res every 5-7 days will help.

ok delta

ok man im with u so i need some ca,cl,si now i dont know what that is but ill have a look at your raw salt deal and get it. i wise i could get the hydro ferts but there are not happening around here. so im stuck with what i got and mabe what i can get by learning from these post.
but anyway thanks for the time and info u are allways a help

ok

ok delta if i go and get these raw salts do i have to get all new ferts are can i still use what i have and just add( ca,cl,si) because thats easy i can do that vary soon.
now if i have to make all new formula with rawsalts then its going to take some more studying and buying
thanks for the time and info

crabs

whats up crabes man i hade the same ?s when i started, and also couldn't get hydro ferts. now my grow ant the best but for a first time grower i think im on top of the wourld. makes me even happer to know that it ant sopose to be done but i done it. now this ant ment for no disrespect to any sienor grandener,like delta becouse he has some really good info all im saying is for a start and to get on track for dwc its a good start.
i know i need some different ferts, and i hope that delta will give me somemore info on the mater, becouse the raw saltes soundes really great, im going looking today for some saltes.
thanks for the time and info

crabes

hy man i went out shoping today ace hardware has just about all the raw salts u u wount, they got them in bags for around 4-7.00 us dollers. i picked up so tomato blossom-end rot spray
9.0 calcium
20.78 chlorine
going to mix this in with my ferts and see what happens
also got some alaska fish emulsion 5/1/1
o.50 ammoniacal nitrgen
0.75 water insoluble nitrogen
3.75other water soluble n
1.0 phosphoric acid
1.0 soluble potash
chlorine 4.0
mixing all this togeter to see what happens im going back later to get the rest of the raw salts and give that a go.
here is some pics

Butterbean I can't buy all those chems. I live in the Far East, I know they are avalible, but I can't speak the language very well so getting them will be a nightmare. That is the reson I wanted to know if soil ferts can work. I tryed to get Epson salts and I could'nt even get those.
I will try the soil ferts and if I enjoy growing hydro I will order ferts from Holland.
Cheers

how far east?
second: can you get soil? it isn't worse..... and you can have a self watering system. Just it doesn't sound logical to do it that way. It may work marginally but there are a lot of problems that are not necessary. Second, you can order the products worldwide or contact say through an 800 number or call long distance ie. General Hydroponics and ask them where the easiest place to go is. Also a lot of places that sell magazines tell you where to get these things as hydroponic magazines are quite popular.

This site locates dealers in common places... but I'm sure they exist elsewhere. Can you buy pot where you are? If so, then there is a way. Also, you should not forget the idea of ordering there is nothing wrong with a fruit & vegetable, ornamental, spice/herb (Parsley, Mint, and more spices) garden.

http://www.amhydro.com/pages/aboutus/locate.html

i mixed a new batch up yesterday around 1:00 it goes like this
ironnite 7/6/6
fish emulsion 5/1/1
peters20/20/20
tomato stuff 9.0 calciumm-20.78 chlorine
like i said im just trying some different ferts ill get 1 that works good verysone. and yes they are still alive and they look alittle better a few more days will tell the tell. this is wy i like hydro u can ex on it if it dont work just drain it and start over.

6piece

i fell u man, but utill i can get the hydro nutes im stuck with what iv got .
if u would gve us some +and - on useing these ferts that would help alot. not the hydro ferts but anyother that you mite have used.
and thanks for the link there is not 1 in my stat but there is 1 a state away when i get the mony up ill give it a go.
and like always thanks for the time and info

The reason why I don't want to list problems with the non hydro fertilizer is because they can vary depending on what you are using. For example, if it is organic you risk organisms and fungus gnats feeding on your water or if it has a dye it may color your plant. There may be nutrient defficiencies as the chemicals will not dissolve properly in water or other possibilities. I asked a similar question regarding the alternatives to hydroponic nutrients, a long time ago and got a response from Delta9420 he said the following (more than 2-3 months ago):

I've been converting from commericial fertilizers to raw salts for the past two years. It can be very difficult to find everything you need. I've found a few places online and the best is:

http://www.medichest.com/

You can buy EDTA quality and they carry everything you need. Here's a complete list of all of the Macros and Micros that are REQUIRED for our hobby (They are listed in order of importance and useage.):

The Macros
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Nitrogen (N) - Nitrate or Ammoniacal (or both)
Phosphorous (P) - Super Triple Phosphate, Cheleated
Potassium (K) - Potassium Chloride or Saltpetre

The Micros
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Magnesium (Mg) - Epsom Salts (MgSO4)
Calcium (Ca) - Hydrated Lime
Sulphur (S) - Epsom Salts (MgSO4)
Iron (Fe) - EDTA Iron
Manganese (Mn) - EDTA Manganese
Zinc (Z) - Zinc Sulfate (ZSO4)
Copper (C) - EDTA Copper
Boron (B) - EDTA Boric Acid
Molybdenum (Mb) - Hard to Find! Most commercial ferts.
Chlorine (Cl) - Potassium Chloride or Saltpetre

Now, what elements are required and how much? That depends on the size of the plant, the stage it is in, and its medium. Soil is more difficult than hydroponics. Regardless, I've been playing with mixtures for a while now and must say that compared to commercial ferts, you have the ULTIMATE control when using raw salts. It's easier to give them what they need and not worry about OD'ing on something they don't. Plus, uptake seems to be enhanced. Quicker maturation.

Want 0-1-0, 1-0-0, 0-0-1, 1-1-1, 1-2-3, .... you name it, no problem ... Zinc or Iron deficient, no problem. It's the final level. And, it's way cheaper than commercial fertilizers. I spent less than $60 on my chems and I've had them for over 18 months ... got tons of everything left. Can't imagine running out for another couple of YEARS!!! No more trips to the garden store.

Plus, if you use EDTA quality salts, you are dye free and all natural!! I've tried them all and salts are the ****. Don't be sold!