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Flora series nutes

Discussion in 'Plant Food & Nutrients' started by Lenhart, Aug 2, 2012.

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    Lenhart

    I am using the flora grow, bloom and micro series nutes. my bottle gives me 4 different options oh how much to apply depending on which growth stages i am in... well ive been googling for a while and i cant find anywhere where it shows me pics or even details about when the plant is on a different stage.. im new to this so i dont know if they are considered seedlings yet or if they shud be in the mild/aggressive stages where im giving more nutes..

    basically what im asking is can someone post pics of some plants grown hydroponically in different stages so ic an see from seedling to the blooming/ripining stages
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    STAN-THE-MAN Seedling

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    LiveForMusic182 You high bra?

    You need to learn how to water given based on what the plant needs...not so much following stages on a nute calendar. This takes practice...which is why we suggested starting off in soil so you learn how to water correctly.

    You know when you are in your veg state...because of the light cycle you have set. When the lowest sets of leaves start yellowing....also known as your cotyledons...this is when you need to start a very small less than 1/4 strength nutes based on what your schedule says. Now ive used fox farms soil and nutes every single grow...i dont know how hot flora nutes are in comparison to fox farms....i know fox farms is hot.

    And just to further clarify what im saying...if my soil schedule says 3 teaspoons per gallon of big bloom and i want to use 1/4 strength nutes...i would use about 2/10 of a teaspoon in my gallon of water..make sense? Im not assuming you dont know basic math..but im making my point clear. Usually with nutes less is more.

    Maybe with flora you can stick more closely to what the schedule says nute wise...but i have no clue.

    As you are preparing your plant to flower...she needs 4 main things....calcium, magnesium, phosphorous, and potassium. They are vital to healthy big beautiful buds....but again i cant tell you how much nutes to add since ive never used that line. I would do some research on google of other users who grew hydroponically and who used this line.

    Good luck my friend glad to hear you are making progress! And trust me...progress is progress! A few months ago you may have never ever thought you would ever grow weed ;)

    Oh and ps...you been ph'ing your water my friend?!
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    Herbdoc215 Botanist

    Great answer L4music, I would only add that nute companies schedules are always to high in my opinion unless you are growing with 40+ lights and using CO2 at 4000 ppm I would always cut 25% off of what they suggest as their goal is too sell more and most don't realize the light FEEDS the plants and we are just giving them their flintstones (vitamins) Peace, Steve
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    STAN-THE-MAN Seedling

    alot of what i read says go with the lucas formula for soil, which is 8ml/gal if using flora nova but the max ive used is 4ml/gal and im also using koolbloom liquid with it 2ml/gal - 2.5ml/gal max and abit of molasses sugar my ppm will be around 650 and my ph is always around 6.5, keeping it a little bit higher than that to stop that cal def showing up that way you can get by without using any extra cal/mag supplements from what ive read.

    i hope you figure your nutes out, it takes abit of searching then trying things out and seeing what your plants like.
    ive had my nutrients for a while but am also trying to make them last which is why im only using 4ml/gal fnb, they are cheap but id rather use less than more. plus when pushing my ferts to much i usually get bud rot.

    www.lucasformula.com
    lucas formula can be used for soil or hydro, you can use the lucas formula with flora series and ive read you can get by without the grow
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    grandad69

    Good day fellow green fingers. I am just about to use flora in nft hydroponics. And it telling me all sorts ratios. Confused. Com. Does anyone no what ratio i actuley need throgh veg to bloom as its a 3 part feed system. Look forward to any info.
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    LiveForMusic182 You high bra?

    If i am not mistaken..with hydro specifically..you can follow the feeding schedule pretty much exactly as the label says. What makes nutrients hot...is the amount of nutrients that usually are contained in soil ON TOP OF what you add yourself in your water. For example..with fox farms..you dont even need to use nutrients till 3-4 weeks after sprouting...so the added nutrients plus the nutrients already in the soil make it "hot" or capable of burning the leaves easily.

    Correct me if im wrong...we all want accurate information here of course but thats pretty much the conclusion i have drawn based on what ive seen and heard.
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    Herbdoc215 Botanist

    L4M,
    You are correct about the soil also most don't flush nutes from it as soil and hydroponics nutrients needs to be flushed either every other water or at least every third with PURE water until it runs out the bottom to keep them from building salts they they didn't uptake....
    Grandad,
    That subject has taken me 20+ years to master and I'm still learning bro so don't let it get you down, as they (GH) are referring to how the ratio's can be changed for every stage of plants lives using the same three bottles (and a few additives I use to help but have seen many of fine grows off just those three bottles in every medium known to man) and I'm doing a video series of shows soon to try and demystify this some as many seem to want to make this harder to understand than it needs to be so they can continue to either sell more or hurt competition...which in my eyes is when this business went to shit...as back in the 90's there was a lot more cooperation between the growers and teachers back then before all this information was made into a commodity??? I have yet to ever see a garden I've consulted for that was using GH show a serious nutrient deficiency as long as it wasn't nutrient locked from mixing wrong or too small of tanks even at reduced ratios as it's much more available than "organics" in orders of magnitude and not dependent upon microorganisms to cheleate(fix into forms so it is available to plants....called mycorrizae) or be broken down either? Also PH is very important and also it's stability as many nutrients are only available at specific PH"s. Peace, Steve
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    MaineWeed

    LiveForMusic182 your comments are spot on!
    Lenhart go on the GH site and they'll have a feeding chart and if its your first hydro grow use the chart and if you keep an eye on your plants you most likely will find that you can even go stronger then what the chart tells you to use. If your doing hydro its a must to have a tri-meter...ph, ppm & temp(ebay for 100. to 125.), start off with about 600ppm when they are seedlings and as they grow week to week you'll see that the chart has you go up a few hundred each week all the way up to 1200ppm's and then this is where hydro shines because you can go above the 1200ppm mark 200ppms a day till you see signs of stress from your plants and then back it off just a tad. I have had some strains that thrived on 2400ppms and others that preferred the recommended 1000 to 1200ppm mark. With hydro you can push your plants to the maximum...end up going beyond what they can handle.. and then with ease and no harm to the plants dilute your mixture and find the sweet spot, its a very forgiving grow compared to dirt. I like GH myself, the FloraNova series but no matter which one you use you should also buy a bottle of cal-mag or magi-cal as the GH lines tend to be lite on it especially when the plants are in veg. With the Flora series your using I'd definitely look up "LUCAS FORMULA" as it a proven winner that many use, STAN-THE-MAN has a quick link posted in his above post for it, use it and try pumping it up a bit as I mentioned above. Happy growing and luck to you. MW

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