Scrog for HIGH YEILD

yes I do!

none of your leafs are burned impressive you must balance your nutrients very well in the soil

Excellent post!

I agree with the main idea behind this thread..... Unless a scrog is properly filled out initially then the high yields are no longer as substantial as a properly scrogged canopy.

IT really is a numbers game when it comes to the number of lights and room size. The bigger the room / the more the light, the more the scrog must be "filled in" before it can be flowered. If the growth tips are restricted too early in flowering and not allowed to come through the screen, the lack of stretch and filling of the screen will lessen total yields.

thanks HIGH - it's not perfect, but I think I am doing well this time around. Really it's a 100 percent feel game, especially growing multiple strains, perpetually, even if you take great notes, it's hard to deduce much from them after the fact. Reading plants is key.

Thanks Canna - Glad you like it. I have seen so many people just growing colas in scrog, at screen level, with nothing below and it totally astounds me

Hey Puffin Tuff,

I have some questions, please excuse the long post...

I have my plants beneath the screen for almost a week now, the flouretts are starting to turn upwards and is begining to resemble a SCRoG.

I am running Grape Stomper aka Sour Grapes that is known to stretch, and Super Skunk from Sensi Seeds ( an indica pheno) which doesn't stretch much. The SS has filled up her side of the screen, and there is about 15-20% of empty space on the GS side.

When should I begin to remove all lower growth beneath the screen? Should I wait until some of those lower shoots breach the screen? There is also some shoots above the screen that have no place to go and are begining to rise up. I'm trying to keep them close to the screen until it fills out more, then let it go?

Hard to tell by your pics, as you said the examples on the right or left, yet your picture is taken from an angle. Trying to find something to compare to. This is my first SCRoG and really want to do it right. Also, I have about 4-4.5ft of space before the plants reach the glass on the hood.

Thanks for your help, in advance.

Hmm...

So I should try to let the plant go from time to time during the first couple of weeks, to help fill in the blanks? I thought it was a good idea to let them stretch within the screen before any bud development?

Right now, there are quite a bit of smaller branches that want to grow up, but haven't had the ability being under the HOT5 under dense canopy. I'm hoping the HID will change this.

The rest of the now woven branches have majority of the flourettes in the screen or screen level.

There are some shoots that are begining to rise up 4" and I can't really tuck them.

SCRoG size is 3x3.

hey doc,

I dont cut anything until after flowering has begun - i will usually cut at 2 weeks, and then again at 3 weeks to get anything i might have missed.

Becuase the first two weeks of flowering is purely explosive vegetative growth, you're not hurting things by cutting during this window.

I imagine that you probably have alot of growth that needs to be removed and wont make it to the screen. Once you begin flowering you will get a better idea.

Should I also be removing any excess fan leaves and bunched up foliage from intermingling branches that don't look like they will produce anything to help create even air flow in the screen, itself, not just below?

Should I let the screen become clogged with growth during the 2 week stretch.

So far, I haven't seen much stretch at all.

Some branches seem 'stacked' upon one another, just immedietly beneath the screen, if that makes sense?

There is also a ton of growth, snuggly along the main stem or trunk of both plants, that I'm wondering if they will actually breach the screen or will the HID not have the power. They have been a week in and this will be the second week of stretch, so hopefully this will be the time when I get to see them explode.

Everyone talks about it (stretch) like they hulk out on you. I haven't seen that yet.

I don't remove fans. There's a tech called defoliation, but I have not tried it yet.

I just cut growth tips below the screen, or anything that is not developing well. I dont really know what you mean about letting the plant clog the screen. but the idea is to have one bud per hole in the fence...maybe two at most.

My plants do hulk out on me during stretch. My ISS literally will triple or more in size, it is amazing. My diesel, probably doubles, most of my indicas will pack on about 50% of the size as compared to the day of the switch.

Hey PT,

Great thread.. thanks a bunch. I agree it is needed.

I am a real novice at ScrOGing but I have got a couple under my belt and think it is really the way to go for people who can take a little more time to grow in the veg state. The yield at the end (and uniform quality) more than makes up for the extra time. I know there will be many more screens in my future growing.

One of my problems with the screen is I grow in a closet so it has been a challenge to get under the screen when I need to trim. Too bad I didn't build a round closet - then I could have mounted a circular screen on a lazy susan!

Hmmmm....

IAE - thanks for opening the thread again. I'll be hanging out and sharing for sure.

Peace.