Shhh, they're listening....

But blow up the 184 deathcamps identified simultaneously

makes a statement? Sets back thier plans and generates a lot of publicity, being lightly manned, could involve no casualties but fences and piping.

Fry the CCTV cameras in the UK. Find ways to get past or incapacitate the filters.

Without infrastructure, they have nothing. They sell the public these intrusions into our civil liberty and hard line plans of death, by claiming it is for public safety.

Destroying death camps before they are operational, could be sold as a cause for public safety too. Today's terrorist's are tomorrow's heroes of the resistance.lol, nigel

well, if there were deathcamps allready in place and the public was aware of it and ok with it?

well...id either commit suicide (fuck this place) or find some deserted island or somewhere in the mountains.

if the public didnt know about it.

it´d be enough to expose them.

Google 'FEMA DEATH CAMPS'

Some say they are real and others a fake; in either case there is a conspiracy. lol, nigel

yes, ive heard about those...

havent see anything concrete though..

though.. ive seen some official looking papers (online) and a curious law made (or statute or something, its been awhile. bush jr i think (possibly clinton, but im leaning toward bush))

Neimoller or something similar was the authors name...

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Thanks for that Bonesoff,

been wondering about the correct transcript. Best wishes, nigel

I find it funny many (include'n me) have issues talk'n bout religion or politics. I think one could say both are about belief and people like to have their own....over all I think and believe people dont like to be intrusive to others beliefs. ....to me...hey its unavoidable.. if not converse about belief then there is sex, food and hmm I would say science but that is a belief (IMHO) because it disproves us over and over.

um so its ironic the 1st post dives right into globalization. lol polotics.

frankly I dont know what is come'n. Its fun to think I may make it to space...its a goal of mine...other than that I am try'n to take it moment by moment-day by day.

I hope economies/goverment become a cross of what it is now and the Star Trek society. I think everyone should have a place, but hard workers deserve more than people that dont. I am all for take'n care of people that cant take care of them self, but not people just doing the minimum cuz they can.

I do think money is the major power in the world (all governments bow to those with it) usually, but when people want things to change they can rise over those with money and bring them down. I think China is a perfect example of it. They were really push'n things not to long ago..people rioted for days back in the day (80's was it?). Then they gave people more freedom etc.

I think the most probable conspiracy is that the people with money are major factor in how the people on this world interact.

I think a perfect example of $$ is the media. If things are presented to people enough times they may do a 180 spin on an issue. TV seems to be the best way for people with money to influence masses.

Theodore Kaczynski, Joe Stack. I wonder why very little attention is focused on their notes they left behind? In the unabombers case it was a manifesto and with Joe it was labled a suicide note.

Leaving behind a manifesto of your actions against the status quo is not a justification for the violence these two individuals brought upon society. Then you have others who are not as articulate going about doing similar things that would cause the feds to do a "Jack Bauer" on your ass.

Im not supporting the actions of either but has the vast majority of people who are familiar with these extremists bothered reading their writings or bothered to try and get inside their heads. Can these individuals be defended for their actions as patriots possibly in 50 years to come?

I needed to add that the unabomber was a total wack job and dont believe any of his writings justified any of his bombing behavior.

What about David Koresh of "Waco" fame? He was painted in a very bad light when the feds were trying to bust up the Branch Davidians. Turns out he wasnt the "nut" job the propaganda machine was making him out to be. It took time before the public caught on to the events at "Waco" and "Ruby Ridge". The gullible public at the time was given a story about cults, child abuse and talking smack about that "Weaver" fellow whos wife got splattered in her doorway by a fed sniper.

I have a certain amount of admiration for people in general who will die for their causes despite the unpopularity of their short term actions if it can be determined the world was made a better place by their actions. Certain corruption cannot be overlooked by some and they martyr themselves in what they perceive to be justice for all. This can piss alot of people off initially but id rather look at how these characters will be judged in 50 years when the institutions they were fighting against come crashing down and everybody starts saying maybe these guys like Kacynski and Stack were on to something when we were sitting in our arm chairs at the time staying within the lines of right and wrong.

Kaczynski?! really? that piece of shit? He was a fucking coward mailing out bombs to people who he hadn't the courage to look in the eye. He injured innocent people just doing their jobs for fucks sake! You have got to be kidding me... In 10-50 or even 200 years that guy will still be considered to have been a cowardly piece of living shit. Fuck him and his "manifesto", that scrawled drivel isn't even fit for toilet paper.
Ruby Ridge was no better than what happened at Kent State on May 4th '70. Innocent people killed (by our govt.)due to others inappropriate actions.Though KSU had 4 children as victims. Koresh well...I dunno...the FBI could have beseiged the branch Davidians(relatively harmless religeous nuts) untill they starved them out but...the FBI had big toys and were itching to use them. Tragic in each and every case though different by far than ol' Teddy.

Yea the unabombers a jerk. I went out of my way to say he was a wack job bad example on my part. Your correct. I was momentarily blindsided by the fact of his background was very immpresive before he went on his rampage.